No title is suitable for this page, niether Sultan nor Hatun since users can't agree. Yes, it was and the series shouldve put more emphasis on Valide Sultanas criticism of her behaviour. Hurrem and Mahidevran really did fight, but At that time Mustafa was the third son of Suleiman, without significant importance. If you ask about Istanbul, the city still suffers from the plague; however, it is not like the previous one. Sorry cant find sources now that was about 12 years ago. I'll sing your praises always Mahidevran and Mustafa lost one more time, now Selim (the second son of Hrrem) became the governor of the Manisa. Selim II (r. 15661574) likely never held anything against Mahidevran personally. She was his mothers rival, not his. Selim II, as depicted in a m The proportion of cardiovascular deaths decreased from 69% in 19791984 to She imprinted her seal and watched the council meetings through a wire mesh window. I asked you to provide a source calling M's father Abdullah a Slave. Page contents not supported in other languages. After Valide Sultan's death, Mahidevran Sultan takes the lead of the harem. I, lover of the tormented heart, Muhibbi of the eyes full of tears, I am happy. The letters also suggest Hurrem's strong desire to establish personal contact with the king. However, if you feel otherwise, you could always simply revert the changes or add the "unreliable source" template with reasoning. Depriving someone of their last name or title for your own satisfaction is NOT just, it's highly misleading and causes conflict with Ottoman history. Please stop making assumptions and accept the facts, this article needs to be changed to only Mahidevran, and all the theories and speculations, and doubted accounts can remain in an subtitle, because "doubt" and "speculation" do nothing to educate and help people. I asked a simple question and you failed to answer because you cant. [17] She did not spend her last years in poverty, as her stepson, Selim II, the new sultan after 1566, put her on a lavish salary. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 05:37, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], A few sources does claim she was a wife. In the Istanbul harem, Hurrem became a rival to Mahidevran and her influence over the sultan soon became legendary. Interviews are constantly being used in Wikipedia for every notable person, why neglect this one? Hurrem's influence in state affairs not only made her one of the most influential women, but also a controversial figure in Ottoman history, especially in her rivalry with Mahidevran and her son ehzade Mustafa, and the grand viziers Pargal Ibrahim Pasha and Kara Ahmed Pasha. Minna Rozen: A History of the Jewish Community in Istanbul, The Formative Years, 1453 1566 (2002). I do NOT understand. Check your inbox or spam folder to confirm your subscription. Above all, her being mother of heir apparent is not a popular culture but a fact. Mahidevran tried to save her only grandson, but she failed again. In 1541, when Mehmet (Hrrems first son) reached the proper age to be local governor, tensionsbetween two women rose again. [30], Mustafa was supported by Ibrahim Pasha, who became Suleiman's grand vizier in 1523. Let's figure it out.#sultantv #ottomanempire #magnificentcentury #ottomanempirehistory Even so, a Sultan was NOT allowed to have more than 4 Kadins at a time (Brinci Kadin, Ba Kadn or Sultan Kadin was the first ranking wife), but can have as much concubines as he liked. WebA cause of death is determined by a medical examiner. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Mahidevran was chief consort as a mother of the oldest surviving son of Suleiman the Magnificent. Life in a Sultans harem was not glamorous and it certainly wasnt about love. She did served as a "cheif consort" (bash Kadin) before Haseki Hurrem Sultan. The title of this page should read as Mahidevran or Mahidevran Gulbahar. Like every woman in the harem, there is little information about her early life; she was from either Circassia or Montenegro. The motion that all these history books are dramatized or contain anachronism can't be true. In 1561, three years after Hurrem's death, the French author Gabriel Bounin wrote a tragedy titled La Soltane. 8:02Am Jun 6, 2017 morning to take a look at it dazzling performances that the Inbetweener on the film, the voice behind the character Wallace who h Suleiman started to see him as a great danger to his rule. Our ancestors said that the plague goes away once the trees shed their leaves in autumn."[26]. Moreover, he was famous for his generosity and fair decisions. [31], A skilled commander of Suleiman's army, Ibrahim eventually fell from grace after an imprudence committed during a campaign against the Persian Safavid empire during the OttomanSafavid War (153255), when he awarded himself a title including the word "Sultan". Friday Social Amazing volunteers host Christmas dinner. She was in the second rank after Hafsa Sultan(Valide Sultan) in the harem according to the Ottoman tradition. I began this website in 2013 because I wanted to share these women's amazing stories. I don't think the Turks would have been so quite and this web would have been still available if it wasn't authentic. [8] However it is clear,that Mahidevran Sultan also carried the title Sultan as she was the first main chief consort (Ba Kadn). # 9. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 02:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Your yet another personal comment attack proves that it's not the History you're worried about but your own opinion. The information given in this page reveals that despite being called addressed as a sultana she wasn't one, and before that edit came to be the page addressed her as hatun (and many others too [1] ), which is also a title she's been given in other sources. Hurrem's birth name is unknown. I oppose changing the title from Sultan to Hatun. [21], Around 1533/1534 (the exact date is unknown),[11] Suleiman married Hurrem in a magnificent formal ceremony. [4] Among the Ottomans, she was known mainly as Haseki Hurrem Sultan or Hurrem Haseki Sultan. The series follows the reign of Sultan Sleyman (r. 1520-1566), known in the West as Suleiman the Magnificent. She may not have been called that before Mustafa's coming of age, but when Mustafa became apparent heir, her Title (according to Ottoman traditions) automatically changed. [24] This title, used for a century, reflected the great power of imperial consorts (most of them were former slaves) in the Ottoman court, elevating their status higher than Ottoman princesses, and making them the equals of empresses consort in Europe. Little Prince Mehmet (named after Mustafas half-brother) wasexecuted at just six years old. [22] It was only possible for Hurrem to marry Suleiman after the death of Hafsa Sultan. In fact, Suleiman was afraid of his eldest sons power. Hope you understand. I guess the authors were inspired by Illuminatis;) (just a joke, no offense) Anyway, I can't argue with you, I can only simply ask for an admin's attention to all of your WP:OR. On the contrary, I sympathize with Mahidevran Hatun. She is part of the love triangle with Lloyd and Poppy. [18] According to Bernardo Navagero's report, as a result of the bitter rivalry a fight between the two women broke out, with Mahidevran beating Hurrem, which angered Suleiman. Hatun is used for every other lady in Turkish and Persian language. The show was originally supposed to open last week With Christmas around the corner, Age Concern South Canterburys Friday Club celebrated by holding a traditional Christmas dinner for its members last Friday. Just Skip that Cariye part as everyone knows even the princesses who were lawfully wedded to Sultans of Ottoman dynasty, Shah Jehans of Mughal emperors and Sheikhs of Arab, were all considered slave to their husbands. 1540. Mahidevran was his most trustable advisor as well as chief of his harem. Alex2006 (talk) 15:04, 12 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Keivan.f I haven't searched about mahidvran but happen to have read about her. Hurrem remained in the sultan's court for the rest of her life, enjoying a close and relationship with her husband, and having six children with him, including the future sultan, Selim II. And for your information, she wasn't the mother, sister, aunt or main wife of the sultan: she wasn't a sultana, even when a theatre play calls her that. () LUCKYEYE GROUP ALSO MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES AS TO WHETHER THE INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE VIA THIS WEB SITE, OR ANY WEB SITE WITH WHICH IT IS LINKED, IS ACCURATE, COMPLETE, OR CURRENT. If you are not convinced we can try to get this on reliable sources noticeboard. However, I added ""the most convincing theory"" was wrong I admit, therefore, I have changed that. Imber, Colin (2002). My only request, please don't emphasize Leslie's work on entire Ottoman system, let there be other possible sources as well, specially for a matter like this, when there is little if no information on "consorts' position in harem before 16th century" is present in her book. Peirce, Leslie (2017). Concubine by definition is not a slave. WebDeaths in June 2017 passed! commercial banks of the capitalist states book; nicholas martin roosevelt; beiersdorf cleveland, tn closing; the difference between body, soul and spirit Best:) - Worldandhistory (talk) 15:18, 30 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Mahidevran Sultan in Trke Bilgi = tr:Meahidevran Sultan in Turkish Wikipedia. In 1521, Mustafa became chief prince due to his half-brothers deaths. [41], Hurrem is known to have been very generous to the poor. I was wrong I admitted that and removed the contents sourced from the blog. Suleiman probably feared the reaction of the army. WebMahidevranwas born on January 01, 1500 (died on February 03, 1581, she was 81 years old) in Bosporus. Not all Haseki married the Sultan, if Hasekis can be called Sultana without marrying the Sultan so can the Bas Kadins. 113.203.158.58 (talk) 00:23, 8 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], I request a change of title, to revert it back to its original name (which was only "Mahidevran") and maintain its protected status. [9], During the reign of Selim I,[10] which means some time between 1512 and 1520, Crimean Tatars kidnapped her during one of their CrimeanNogai slave raids in Eastern Europe. [25], After the death of Suleiman's mother, Hafsa Sultan, in 1534, Hurrem became the most trusted news source of Suleiman. [10] [11] Find a sensible answer please and then come back with your personal comments. Images of the chief consort emphasized her beauty and wealth, and she is almost always depicted with elaborate headwear. Pathetic joke!! Memorial ID. At age 26 Suleiman takes the throne. [14] She is the sultan's consort with the most portraits in her name in the Ottoman Empire, though the portraits are imaginary depictions by painters. Trk Tarih Kurumu Basmevi. [25] Also, in Ottoman society, mothers played more influential roles in their sons' educations and in guiding their careers. In the end, she found herself in Manisa as one of the women in the Suleimans harem. And you Sir, just decided to crash in and make an edit. The leading cause of death in subjects with preserved EF was noncardiovascular disease (49%) versus coronary heart disease (43%) for subjects with reduced EF. If interviews can be cited in Wikipedia for every living or dead person, why there is so much debate in this one? Also I would like to repeat a point I made earlier, the interview with her alleged descendant cannot be overlooked. Prominent Ukrainian writer Pavlo Zahrebelny describes Hurrem as "an intelligent, kind, understanding, openhearted, candid, talented, generous, emotional and grateful woman who cares about the soul rather than the body; who is not carried away with ordinary glimmers such as money, prone to science and art; in short, a perfect woman."[43]. Mahidevran played a great role during her sons education as governor. She built numerous mosques, madrasahs, hammams, and resting places for pilgrims travelling to the Islamic holy city of Makkah. Thank you From Khondoker Jobair. Hurrem and Mahidevran were 2 main consorts. 125.209.82.212 (talk) 20:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], It is stated that kadins and hasekis carried equal rights in the harem, so why are you so passionate to call her sultana if she wasn't married to Suleyman? [20] She pleads with the King to trust her envoy Hassan Aa who took another message from her by word of mouth. Hurrem and Mahidevran had borne Suleiman six ehzades (Ottoman princes), four of whom survived past the 1550s: Mehmed, Selim, Bayezid, and Cihangir. - Worldandhistory (talk) 16:33, 28 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], @Phso2: Two of your sources are at stake (Colin Iber's and Peirce's), please read page 136 of Colin's book, this gives definition of Slave in general term, so calling any member of Sultan's family a slave does not necessarily makes them a slave by origin, and P simply used a text from Alberi, P herself only called M a concubine. [44] This tragedy marks the first time the Ottomans were introduced on stage in France. Either way, this was another significant break from established customs, as Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror had specifically issued a decree to the effect that no women would be allowed to reside in the same building where government affairs were conducted. In official account, not all consorts who was referred as SULTANA was legally married to Sultan nor was the Valide Sultan. Now Mahidevran became a chief consort as a mother of the only prince in the Empire. Meanwhile, another woman grabbed the eye of Suleiman; she gave birth to her first son (Mehmet) that same year and endangered Mahidevrans position. This new woman was the famous Hrrem Sultan. ehzade Mahmud (November 1512 - 29 October 1521); This page was last edited on 21 March 2021, at 10:11. Mihrimah Sultan was born in 1522 as the daughter of Sultan Soliman the Magnificent and Roxelana. Most other sixteenth-century Western sources on Hurrem, which are considered highly authoritative today such as Turcicae epistolae (English: The Turkish Letters) of Ogier de Busbecq, the Emissary of the Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand I at the Porte between 1554 and 1562; the account of the murder of ehzade Mustafa by Nicholas de Moffan; the historical chronicles on Turkey by Paolo Giovio; and the travel narrative by Luidgi Bassano derived from hearsay.[11]. All other depictions of Hurrem, starting with comments by sixteenth and seventeenth-century Ottoman historians as well as by European diplomats, observers, and travellers, are highly derivative and speculative in nature. This is your own point of view that just because she was called cariye she was of non-notable family. The change of titles was to differentiate a legal wife from a concubine/consort/unrecognized wife or however you want to call it. WebExplore Mahidevrans 121 photos on Flickr! She had been a servant in the household of Hanerli Fatma Sultan, daughter of ehzade Mahmud, son of Sultan Bayezid II. And it's not "my" idea of history, I'm respecting the facts; if anyone's fabricating their own fantasy is you with your admitted speculations and possibilities.. Don't even start to talk about facts when the come from a theatre play. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of Mahidevran Hatun (174192522)? In attempting to avoid the execution of her sons, Hurrem used her influence to eliminate those who supported Mustafa's accession to the throne. In the 20112014 TV series Muhteem Yzyl, Hurrem Sultan is portrayed by Turkish-German actress Meryem Uzerli from seasons one to three. You completely twisted the question and answered what I didn't ask. In her first short letter to Sigismund II, Hurrem expresses her highest joy and congratulations to the new king on the occasion of his ascension to the Polish throne after the death of his father Sigismund I the Old in 1548. Khondoker Jobair (talk) 06:13, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]. She was the chief consort of Suleiman before the appearance of Hrrem Sultan. Many books (you may easily google) have also referred to this website for references. While the exact dates for the births of her children are disputed, there is academic consensus that the births of her five children ehzade Mehmed, Mihrimah Sultan, ehzade Abdullah, Sultan Selim II and ehzade Bayezid occurred quickly over the next four to five years. Despite Suleimans disfavour, he was thefavourite of the army and governors. Takabeg (talk) 09:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Someone needs to check the pronunciation: stress and vowel length. [20] After the death of Mustafa, Mahidevran lost her status in the palace as the mother of the heir apparent and moved to Bursa. -Le temps viendra (talk) 22:32, 10 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], Clear this matter Le temps Viendra Khondoker Jobair (talk) 05:03, 12 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply], Mentioned her survival possible after Hurrem a death is not sound real. We can ask her! A short woman wearing expensive clothes and jewelry appears Hurrem: Agha? Where are we? (She looks closer at my face, noticing the [1] Note that I'm not saying that Mahidevran was not chief consort before the title Haseki came into use, but it's clear that she didn't continue to hold the title. WebMahidevran Turbesi3.jpg 315 470; 22 KB. Mustafa and Mahidevran were sent back to Amasya. And Mahidevran was the proud mother of Sehzade Mustafa,who was the most potential and talented heir apparent to the throne.And Mahidevran was not like the other Consorts of Suleiman,like Gulfem or Fulane.After the death of the sons of other consorts by diseases She was the mother of only son of Suleiman the magnificent and according to the ottoman tradition sje was Suleiman's Bas kadin,which was the most powerful position for a Sultan's consort before creation and after abolition of the title Haseki Sultan.As Leslie P. Pierce said that during Suleiman's reign the title for Queen mother, Princesses and Sultan's chief consort changed to Sultan from Hatun.And other ordinary consorts of Sultan held the title Hatun.And Mahidevran Sultan was favorite and chief consort of Suleiman before hurrem,and she was the mother of crown prince of the ottoman empire. According to late 16th-century and early 17th-century sources, such as the Polish poet Samuel Twardowski (died 1661), who researched the subject in Turkey, Hurrem was seemingly born to a man surnamed Lisovski, who was an Orthodox priest of Ruthenian origin. Not only is the phrasing leaving much to be desired, the conclusion is also a subjective speculation presented as a fact. 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New Zealand This site uses cookies to improve your experience and to help show content that is more relevant to your interests. Muradiye complex. Birinci Kadin was used for wives only, Brinici Kadin was not used for concubines or ordinary consorts, Birinci Kadin meant First Wife/Senior Consort. Scholars have wondered if Hurrem's alliance with Mihrimah Sultan and Rstem Pasha helped secure the throne for one of Hurrem's sons. Please be fair. In 1543, right after the sudden death of Prince Mehmet, the womens war started upagain. In this article the sentence about Mahidevran's origin had been changed several times. Born in Ruthenia (then an eastern region of the Kingdom of Poland, now Rohatyn, Ukraine) to a Ruthenian Orthodox priest, Hurrem was captured by Crimean Tatars during a slave raid and eventually taken to Istanbul, the Ottoman capital. 63), an opera by Denys Sichynsky, a ballet, plays, and several novels written mainly in Russian and Ukrainian, but also in English, French, German and Polish. For the record, you still failed to answer my question, rephrasing; why in some theatre plays she's the only Hatun ranked consort who is erroneously addressed like Sultana? Moreover, she is referred to as "Mahidevran Sultan" in popular history books, TV series and touristic literature. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. This page was last edited on 16 January 2023, at 12:59. Address: Your email address will not be published. I got this text from this reference if anyone have an actual book name to cite then please update. If Sultana cannot be used for a "Birinci Kadin" then Hatun should also not be used. However, some argue that she has Albanian roots. WebHello my dear friends!I'm glad to see you on my channel. Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter and stay up to date on History of Royal Women's articles! (besides, you don't mention Turkish among the languages you speak)--Phso2 (talk) 10:22, 25 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply], The Word Birinci Kadin means "First Lady" as in (respected) wife of reigning king, not "First Woman". She learns about the pregnancy of Nigar Kalfa through Gulsah and she informs Hatice Sultan of his husband's unfaithfulness. Suleiman (r. 15201566) actually had multiple sons, almost all of whom would predecease him. By the time he became Sultan, he had three: Mahmud, Mu 113.203.146.216 (talk) 01:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Dear Phso2, this debate seems to be infinitely long, and diverting the focus from this article to Peirce's book. She was given many honours after her death. Hope you got my point. 125.209.82.212 (talk) 22:11, 1 April 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]. [22] Nurbanu died in December 1583. If you all come to an agreement earlier let me know. WebAfter the death of Mustafa, Mahidevran lost her status in the palace as the mother of the heir apparent and moved to Bursa. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 05:20, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Also, let's not forget that many of those artistic/theatrical depictions are based on rumors and fictitious creations for the sake of entertainment. Mahidevran wasn't a legal wife nor became the mother of a reigning sultan; you should read your own sources too, since it specifies the differences between a concubine and a legal wife.190.218.117.86 (talk) 20:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Sorry I am not making excuses I just refuse to believe that a "Brinci Kadin" wasn't called Sultana when she was serving as a mother of heir apparent and living in the Harem the same time title "Sultan" was started being used for Sultan's consorts. My name is Moniek and I am from the Netherlands. Museum of Turkish and Islamic Arts, The Hagia Sophia Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse built in 1556, Haseki Sultan of Suleiman the Magnificent, Content in this edit is translated from the existing Turkish Wikipedia article at. [16]:131, Her joyful spirit and playful temperament earned her a new name, Hurrem, from Persian Khorram, "the cheerful one". 190.218.117.86 (talk) 01:47, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], I beg to differ, in many books (arts, literature whatever you may call) she has been known as Sultana. Worldandhistory (talk) 14:13, 4 March 2016 (UTC) [4] Hurrem's influence on Suleiman was so significant that rumors circulated around the Ottoman court that the sultan had been bewitched.[5]. The Tatars may have first taken her to the Crimean city of Kaffa, a major centre of the Ottoman slave trade, before she was taken to Istanbul. Partly. Its was Mahidevrans fault that Sultan Suleiman focused all his attention on Hrrem Sultana. Simply because Mahidevran was too proud and wan The Venetian painter Titian is reputed to have painted Hurrem Sultan in 1550. According to reports of theVenetian ambassador, Mustafa was the whole joy in his mothers life, and Mahidevran was a highly effective figure in her sons court. She had a Kira who acted as her secretary and intermediary on several occasions, although the identity of the kira is uncertain (it may have been Strongilah[39] or Esther Handali[citation needed]). A few years later, Hrrem Sultan never left the capital to accompany her sons, and she became more and more precious for Suleiman, and afew years later they got married.
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